Παρασκευή 26 Αυγούστου 2011

Aποκάλυψη απο τα Wikileaks-Παπανδρέου προς ΗΠΑ: "Νιώθω πολύ κοντά σας, κάντε με μεσολαβητή σας"!

Τραγική για έλληνα πολίτη, πόσο μάλλον πρωθυπουργό, είναι η σημερινή αποκάλυψη της wikileaks για συνάντηση του ΓΑΠ με τον γερουσιαστή Durbin, τον Γιαννούλα και τον Σπέκχαρντ. Το τι τους είπε δεν περιγράφεται!! Παραβλέπουμε ότι στη συνάντηση που έγινε τον Φεβρουάριο του 2009 σε ερώτηση του Γιαννούλα τι σκέφτεται να κάνει με το διογκούμενο χρέος, του λέει ότι η χώρα χρειάζεται μια νέα κυβέρνηση που να μπορεί να πάρει δύσκολες αποφάσεις που πρέπει να ληφθούν... παραβλέπουμε ότι παραδέχεται ότι η κρίση είναι τόσο εξωγενής όσο και ενδογενής ενώ δημόσια έλεγε ότι η κρίση είναι ελληνική... και τα παραβλέπουμε όλα γιατί η συνομιλία περιέχει δύο βόμβες που ως συνήθως θα θαφτούν από τα ελληνικά ΜΜΕ:

1. Ο Παπανδρέου γλύφει πατόκορφα τον Αμερικάνο Γερουσιαστή και του λέει ότι νιώθει πάρα πολύ κοντά στις ΗΠΑ, ενώ του θυμίζει τόσο ότι γεννήθηκε όσο και ότι σπούδασε εκεί!! Στη συνέχεια λέει ότι οι ΗΠΑ είναι η μόνη δύναμη στον κόσμο που μπορεί να προωθήσει τις δημοκρατικές αξίες δίνοντας ουσιαστικά πράσινο φως για επεμβάσεις σε στυλ Λιβύη... Τέλος δεν ξεχνά να τους θυμίσει ότι η Ελλάδα είναι μια "μικρή χώρα... που μπορεί όμως να συμβάλει σε επίλυση προβλημάτων... ηγέτης να σου πετύχει...




2. Αφού τους λέει ότι σαν Πρόεδρος της ΣοσιαλΗστικής Διεθνούς βοήθησε τους πρώην κομμουνιστές του ανατολικού μπλόκ να καμουφλαριστούν σαν δημοκράτες και κατάφερε να κάνει τους Ισραηλινούν και τους Παλαιστίνιους να συνομιλήσουν... τους σκάει το μεγάλο παραμύθι που μοιάζει σαν αγγελία για δουλειά: Είμαι διατεθειμένος αν θέλετε να μεσολαβήσω μεταξύ των ΗΠΑ και διαφόρων ηγετών στον κόσμο με τους οποίους έχετε προβλήματα!!!

Και αυτός ο άνθρωπος είναι Πρωθυπουργός της Ελλάδας...

Εννοείται ότι τους φλόμωσε στις παπαριές "η Ελλάδα μπορεί να καλύψει όλη την ενέργειά της με τον άνεμο" η "μπορούμε να φτιάξουμε ανεμόμυλους που θα δένουν και με το τοπίο" κ.λπ παπαριές για πράσινη ανάπτυξη.

Τέλος αυτονόητο θεωρείται ότι τους έλεγε "μπορούμε να δουλέψουμε μαζί σας" και σαν καλός "Έλληνας" τα έχωσε στη Μέρκελ που δεν γυρνάει να μοιράζει ακάλυπτες επιταγές σε όσους χρωστάνε λεφτά...

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UNCLAS SECTION 01 OF 02 ATHENS 000250
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SUBJECT: CODEL DURBIN'S MEETING WITH GREEK OPPOSITION

LEADER PAPANDREOU



REF: ATHENS 207



Summary

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ΒΆ1. (SBU) In a wide-ranging discussion February 18, Senator

Durbin and main opposition PASOK party president George

Papandreou shared views on the global economic crisis,

Cyprus, Greek-Turkish relations, Afghanistan, and other

issues. They agreed that the international goodwill

surrounding the new U.S. administration provided an

opportunity to make lasting reforms in the global economy --

including expansion of renewable energy -- and to improve the

global image of the U.S. Papandreou stressed the "closeness"

he feels with the U.S., the country of his birth, and he

argued that the U.S. is "the only power in the world" able to

take the lead in promoting our shared democratic values. He

added that Greece would be ready to do its part under a

future PASOK government. Papandreou expressed admiration for

the recently signed U.S. economic stimulus package, and said

he wished the EU would consider something similar.

Unfortunately, he said, Germany had taken the lead in holding

back the EU's reaction to the economic crisis, based on what

Papandreou considered a misguided commitment to fiscal rules

that made little sense in a recession. Noting his role as

current head of the Socialist International, Papandreou

explained his work with leaders in the Muslim world and

elsewhere to find peaceful ways to resolve disputes and to

deal with terrorism. He said he would be open to U.S. ideas

if there were ways he could help build connections to

confrontational leaders anywhere in the world. End Summary.



"Time to Work Together"

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ΒΆ2. (SBU) Papandreou began the meeting with Senator Durbin,

Illinois Treasurer Alexi Giannoulias, and the Ambassador by

offering congratulations for the election of President Obama

and by noting how his own life story was deeply connected

with the U.S. (including a year Papandreou spent in high

school in Elmhurst, Illinois). Durbin noted the wide range

of challenges facing the new administration, including the

global economic crisis, Iraq, and Afghanistan. Durbin also

shared impressions of his recent visit to Cyprus, including

the prospects for progress this year in the negotiations, as

well as weaknesses in civil society. Papandreou thanked

Durbin for his work in the Senate on Greek-Turkish relations

and other issues of importance to Greece. Papandreou said

that now is the time for us to work together, and he endorsed

what he called President Obama's "message to world" to solve

our common problems. Papandreou said that although Greece is

a "smaller country," it can contribute to stability in

surrounding regions, and he noted in particular Greece's

historic relationships with the Muslim world.



ΒΆ3. (SBU) Durbin noted the importance of President Obama's

first Executive Order on Guantanamo, torture, and ensuring

humane standards for rendition, and Papandreou expressed

strong support, adding that he had publicly used the

President's statement about security and freedom not being

mutually exclusive. He agreed that there is currently an

opportunity for the U.S. to create a different image around

the world, observing that in the past it was easy for groups

opposed to our shared democratic values to point to torture

as a way to discredit the U.S. Papandreou said that while

the U.S. could not "dictate solutions," it was the "only

power in the world that can lead" in promoting our values.

Papandreou said we would have his support in this effort.



Seeking a Large EU Stimulus

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ΒΆ4. (SBU) Papandreou said that early parliamentary elections

were a real possibility in Greece, and he noted that opinion

polls showed PASOK would likely win. He stressed that the

current government had been weakened by internal and external

crises, and Greece needed a new government that would have

the credibility with society to make difficult decisions and

to mobilize people. Telling the delegation "we can work with

you," Papandreou noted that his top priority in government

would be the same as President Obama's: dealing with the

economic situation. Papandreou said it would be in the

interest of both Greece and the U.S. to push the EU to

consider a larger stimulus package on the model of the U.S.

stimulus. He said the EU should do its part to encourage

investment for the good of the global economy. Papandreou

lamented that the EU's cumbersome rules and the opposition of

key members -- especially an overly inflation-phobic Germany

-- had constrained the EU response to the crisis. He called

for the EU to relax its "master criteria" that require member

states to run no more than a 3 percent budget deficit,

arguing that these rules made no sense in a recession. He

also expressed support for ending disparities in interest

rates for loans within the euro zone.



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ΒΆ5. (SBU) Durbin noted that energy independence was a key goal

of the U.S. stimulus, and that the package's investment in

renewable energy had resonated with the U.S. public.

Papandreou agreed, noting it would be possible "to power

Greece only with wind." He expressed support for new

windmills based on traditional Greek designs, so that tourist

areas would embrace them as part of the Greek "brand" rather

than opposing them as an eyesore. He added that Greece had

the potential to do more with solar, water, and geothermal

power. Papandreou also agreed with the Ambassador's

suggestion that Greece look at developing its communication

infrastructure, noting the economic benefits of expanding

broadband access.



ΒΆ6. (SBU) Asked by Durbin for his views on trade, Papandreou

emphasized that he was not a protectionist, but instead took

the social democratic view that markets should be open but

governed by rules to encourage development. He said he would

like to see an organization like the IMF that would do more

to put clear, strict international rules on financial

development, "geared toward where we want to move the

planet," including greater use of renewable energy. He

expressed support for "incentives for free competition" in

the WTO that would over time improve the poor conditions that

workers currently face in many poor countries. Papandreou

said both the U.S. and EU should be more open for trade in

agriculture. He noted that Greece could do well as a niche

producer of high-quality agricultural goods in a more

competitive market.



ΒΆ7. (SBU) Giannoulias asked about the alarming growth in

Greece's public debt, and Papandreou agreed it was a problem,

unlike private debt and toxic assets, two problems Greece had

largely managed to avoid. Papandreou said Greece lacked of

competitiveness, and this could be dealt with through

modernization, including moving toward a green economy. He

noted that Greece was made more vulnerable to the global

financial crisis because its banks had invested heavily in

the Balkans. He peppered the delegation with questions about

how the U.S. was responding to the current economic

challenges in the areas of real estate, unemployment, and

public transportation. Durbin and Giannoulias noted the

importance of infrastructure investment as part of the U.S.

stimulus.



Papandreou's International Outreach

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ΒΆ8. (SBU) Papandreou said his position as leader of the

Socialist International had given him access to a wide range

of leftist parties around the world, some in power and some

not. Noting that he had helped eastern European communist

parties to democratize after the fall of the Berlin Wall,

Papandreou said he would be willing to reach out to

confrontational leaders in Latin America or elsewhere in the

world if the U.S. thought he could be of use in building

connections. Papandreou noted that the Socialist

International had brought together Palestinian and Israeli

parties to discuss peace plans, and that he had discussed

with Pakistani President Zardari the idea of setting up a

committee to find ways to isolate terrorist groups without

relying solely on force. Papandreou added that he had doubts

about the wisdom of Zardari's recent cease-fire agreement

that permits Sharia law in parts of Pakistan, but he

understood that Zardari was in a difficult situation.

Papandreou said he had developed contacts with such countries

as Syria and Iran during his tenure as Foreign Minister

(1999-2004).



ΒΆ9. (SBU) Turning to Turkey and Cyprus, Papandreou stressed

that as Foreign Minister he and his Turkish counterpart, the

late Ismail Cem, had launched a new era in bilateral

relations, based in part on a significant increase in

person-to-person contacts. These started with mutual

assistance efforts following earthquakes in both countries in

1999 and continued with exchanges in music, soccer, business,

and local government. By the initiative's second year,

Papandreou said, there were so many cross-border civil

society activities that it was impossible to count them. He

said he had promoted similar efforts in Cyprus, including a

high-profile case in which a Turkish Cypriot boy with

leukemia had been matched with a Greek Cypriot donor. These

initiatives stopped after the failed referendum in Cyprus in

ΒΆ2004. Papandreou said it would be important to push on

initiatives such as these when PASOK is back in power. If

the leadership empowers people to establish contacts, he

said, those contacts will happen.



ΒΆ10. (U) CODEL Durbin departed post prior to clearing this

cable.

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